Friday, 3 May 2013
Bappo & Cam's Weekly Football Manchat!!
Gareth Bale has been voted PFA Player of
the Year. If you had to hand in the award for Worst Player of the Year, who
would be your candidates and eventual winner?
Cam: Worst
player of the year? Good question. Titus Bramble will always be up there for me
just because he is a ridiculous character with no football brain whatsoever.
The Brazilian left back at Arsenal Andre Santos had an absolute Weston Super
Mare to the extent that he was eventually loaned out to avoid further
embarrassment. Ross Turnbull didn't exactly shower himself in glory in the few
games that he was called upon by Chelsea. Jon Walters scoring 2 own goals and
missing a penalty against Chelsea definitely stands out for me and he surely
wins the worst match of the season award! (talk about a bad day in the
office?!).
| Andre Santos: poor signing Arsène |
Bappo: There
have been a few worthy candidates this year. Jon Obi Mikel's insipid
performances continue to baffle me, as does his continued presence in the
Chelsea team. Ashley young at Man Utd has also been absolutely atrocious. No
creativity, no quality, no desire. How he still finds his way into the England
side is beyond me. Honestly, he makes Anderson look incredible, and Giggs look
like he's 25. Other players at smaller clubs have also been found out: Adam
Federici of Reading has been extremely poor, as has Pavel Pogrebnyak, whilst
Jos Hooiveld has been superbly consistent in scoring own goals and forgetting
the offside rule all year long. Superb performance by Jos. But all these guys
are simply playing out of their depth.
No, this year is going to be a collective award.
I'm going to award it to QPR. They all deserve it, but here are the people I'll
mention in particular: Armand Traore, Nedum Onuoha, Anton Ferdinad, Samba
Diakite, Bobby Zamora, Jay Bothroyd, Chris Samba, Adel Taarabt and Rob
Green. I've decided, because I can, to award the captaincy to three of their
most 'deserving' players in that regard. Take a bow SWP, Jose Bosingwa and Park
Ji-Sung. You have now fallen to an all time low that even The Wanted wouldn't
sing about. You were an embarrassment to all professional footballers in the
country. Congratulations.
What did you make of the Real-Dortmund
game? Did Dortmund deserve to go through?
Cam: Real
v Dortmund was an interesting game. Real left it too late in the end and
Dortmund survived a late scare to deservedly go through. With Pepe dropped
after his stinker in Germany, Real did look better at the back but they couldn't
get the 3 goals they needed to progress.
Özil should have scored in the first half,
Ronaldo had a poor game by his standards and Higuain was very disappointing and
wasteful. Götze pulling his hamstring early on definitely didn't help the
Germans but Dortmund did still create a few chances and probably should
have scored. Lopez made a couple of great saves and Lewandowski wasn't as
hot as he was in the first leg. Perhaps this was partly due to the rough
treatment he received by the Real defence and Sergio Ramos in particular.
Overall, the best team over the two legs went through and personally I would
love to see BVB win it. They are a young team with a charismatic manager that
plays great attacking football and it looks like they are going to lose a few
of their big names this summer so it would be good for them to leave on a high.
Bappo: Dortmund
absolutely deserved going through. From dominating the first leg to riding
their luck bravely (but still carving out clear-cut chances) in the second,
BVB's band of merry men were superb, enthusiastic and attacking all along. They
played with a joy and dedication which was absent from Real. Of course things
might have been different had Real actually scored one of the 3 big
chances they had in the first 15 minutes, but all I saw was a team unable
to dictate play for the rest of the game. It also didn't help that
Mourinho wasn't really bothered (more on that later), Ronaldo gave two awful
performances (lucky for him that Messi was also injured and shocking against
Bayern) and that Higuain just didn't remember to stay onside at any point
in the game.
Dortmund were by far the better side, and it'll
be more of a pleasure seeing their young team attack in the final
than seeing a boring, conservative Real try and win it.
Where does this leave Mourinho, and what
have you made of his time at Real? Where will he go next?
Cam: Mourinho
has made no secret of his desire to return to England and there is no doubt
that the Premier League would welcome him back with open arms. Will Mr
Abramovich swallow his pride and bring him back to the Bridge? This seems to be
his most likely destination but I wouldn't rule out either Manchester club. I
think his time at Real has been successful. “Back to back to back” semi-final
defeats in the Champions League is still pretty impressive plus he did win the
league last season and looks odds on to win the Copa Del Rey this season. And
he transformed the team and club and got them playing extremely quick
counter-attacking football.
However what stands out more than anything during
his reign at Real is the utterly ridiculous amount of politics present at the
football club that is Real Madrid. In-fighting, power struggles, players
disrespecting the manager and vice versa, TV presenters, the press and agents
all getting in the way… Also the sheer hatred towards Mourinho the Portuguese
in Spain has been harsh, relentless and unjustified. Chants including "Die
Mourinho" are clearly going too far. Jose's public fall out with Iker
"golden hombré" Casillas somewhat typifies his struggle at Real and
has undoubtedly made his position untenable.In addition some of Mourinho's
signings were very expensive and haven't really proved their worth on the
pitch, Coentrao and Modric immediately spring to mind.
Overall his time at Real has been successful and
despite failing to win the Champions League, he can leave with his head held
high and look forward to taking on a new challenge.
Bappo: A
quick disclaimer before I answer this question: yes, I do think that Jose
Mourinho is one of the best managers around. Now let me criticise him.
For too long now at Real, Jose has been
interested in the politics rather than actual results. Yes, Real is a very
political football club. Just ask Vicente del Bosque and Pellegini. But
Jose, from the start, was given much more power than any of his predecessors.
He was backed all the way by a desperate Florentino Perez. Mourinho managed to
get rid of Jorge Valdano, a life-ling Madridista and ex-player who was meant to
have a negative influence on everything. Jose also brought and gave big
roles to a lot of Portuguese players under Jorge Mendes' supervision (by
the way, Jorge Mendes = one of the most powerful men in football at the
moment). I mean, £30m for Coentrao? Please. And signings like Modric or Essien
on loan? These were only done to maintain Jose's hold over the club.
Jose's time has been marked by a power struggle
all along, and a failure to unite anyone at the club. From segregating the
Portuguese or Mourinho favourites from the Spanish contingent, to alienating
Sergio Ramos and Iker Casillas (surely two of the most important players
at the club), Jose has gone about dividing and conquering. Only problem is, he
hasn't been that successful.
It's all relative of course, but considering the
investment Real Madrid and, as importantly, Florentino Perez, have
put in him, Jose hasn't paid them back. I know he's faced a great
Barcelona side, but apart from the title last season, his team haven't even
been a close second. That's despite substantial, short-term investment in the
squad.
As for Champions' league, whilst there is no
shame in losing 3 times in a row in the semi-finals, Jose should be criticised
for his team's last 2 exits. Last year against Bayern, and despite running
riot in the league and wining the first leg, Real approached the second
leg with too much caution and a conservative game plan, giving Bayern the
initiative and letting them dictate play. This year's was even worse. Whilst
Dortmund are no doubt a team on the up, the selection of Pepe ahead of Varane
in the first leg was surprising considering how little he's played.
The overall aggregate defeat also clearly showed the limits of Jose's
tactical nous at Real: in 3 years he has failed to create a Plan B for his
team. Having shaped Real into the world's greatest counter-attacking side,
Jose failed to teach it how to dictate play, something which was quite
visible yesterday between the 20th and 80th minute where Real failed to
create anything after their initial flurry.
All in all, Jose is still a great manager.
But with his emphasis on shrt-term success (any youth team players coming
through at Chelsea, Inter or Real?) and his quest for total control, he seems
to have forgotten how to unite his players (remember Chelsea and Inter,
how much they loved him?) and was more interested in his own
reputation.
This has been highlighted by his constant
disregard for Real as an institution. Depsite the club giving him so
much, Jose has constantly mentioned Chelsea and put himself on clubs'
shopping list. His press interview following the defeat against Dortmund
was unashamed publicity and showed a total lack of consideration for a club
which has made so many people dream and still will once Mourinho is
gone. It was a despicable act from a man who thinks he is bigger than
everyone else in football.
| Jose and Iker: Beef |
Barcelona were thoroughly thrashed
yesterday by Bayern. Is it the end of an era? And where should they invest?
Cam: End of an era? No. A big
wake up call and a German slap in the face? Yes. Bayern demolished Barca and at
times it was men against boys as the 7-0 aggregate scoreline would suggest.
However, most of the damage was done in Germany and Barca clearly and
disappointingly gave up in the 2nd leg (particularly in the 2nd
half after Xavi and Iniesta had been subbed). Messi was not fit for the first
leg and consequently unable to feature in the second leg (but why Tito played
him in the league game in between when they’ve already got the league in the
bag is a mystery). Barca’s reliance on the world’s best player is slightly
perturbing given the calibre of players in their squad. However, there are
clear problems in the Barca team and to quote one of my favourite pundits
Guillhem Balague, “Barcelona is like a delicious ice cream that has been
melting in the sun for the last 6 months.” Spanish Shakespeare? Villa has never
been the same since his leg break, Pedro is not the player we thought he would
be when he first broke onto the scene, Sanchez has been a massive and expensive
disappointment, Cesc has struggled to really establish himself, Song wasn’t the
best signing, and Xavi and Iniesta aren’t getting any younger or quicker and
Messi’s inevitably picking up niggles and injuries here and there. Plus their
distinct lack of actual central defenders (Mascherano, Bartra, Song?) is
starting to catch up with them. Guillhem suggests these are all reasons that
contributed to Pep’s decision to take a break and move on and I have to agree
with him. Let’s put things in perspective, they are still one of the very best
sides in Europe and have absolutely bossed La Liga this season leaving the two
Madrid teams for dead. Plus Messi, Iniesta and Xavi are three of the very best
players of our generation. However, Bayern were quicker, stronger, hungrier,
more efficient and generally much better than Barca and consequently brushed
them aside with consummate ease. Schweini and Martinez dominated the midfield
and Robben and Ribery really terrorized Barca’s defence.
Areas to strengthen? Almost everywhere to be fair which may seem
extreme for a team as good as Barcelona but hear me out. In goal Valdes is
leaving at the end of the season so Barca will need to make a big signing here
to fill his gloves. In defence they undeniably need a centre back or two to
help out Piqué and the now ageing and injury prone Puyol. A top quality
midfielder would help the team as Cesc is struggling to take the mantel from
Xavi. In the attacking positions, should Barca actually try and buy a proper
striker for a change? A Falcao or a Cavani would definitely strengthen Barca
and players like Sanchez, Pedro and Villa have struggled to impress this
season. Anyway, rant over. Good luck Tito!
Bappo: It's
not the end of an era, far from it, but it's a warning sign that Barcelona might
have become a bit complacent. Pique in particular hasn't really lived up the the
hype of a few years ago and just seems uninterested in defending. The scariest
part for me was that some of Barca's great players seemed incapable to take the
game on without Messi. I mean, Iniesta, Xavi, Villa and Pedro are all quality
players, but they just looked lost out there. Surprising considering that
Barcelona, even without Messi, should be a scary proposition for any team. And
yet they had nothing going for them.
Barcelona do have to invest. They have no depth
at centre-back, where Mascherano is just a mascarade of a centre-back. And need
I say Marc Bartra? They obviously need a centre-back, and hearing Hummels being
mentioned as a transfer target makes total sense. Cool, composed on the ball,
the Dortmund centre-back was superb against Real Madrid, and would be a great
ball-playing defender for Barca. Otherwise, Barca don't need that much
investment, although a back-up striker could help.
What Barca do need, though, is to invest better.
Alex Song has been an abject failure, and he follows Chygrinski and Ibrahimovic
(although he was still a success in my book) as players who came for big fees
and didn't deliver what was expected of them. The club are still in great shape
though, and they still have La Masia.
Bayern have been sensational this season,
but have you been surprised by their success? And do you think they'll go on
and dominate European football from now on?
Cam: Honestly not surprised at
all. The level of Dortmund’s success has surprised me but not Bayern’s. They
were an incredible team last season and suffered the trauma of losing the
Champions League on penalties in their home stadium, whilst also conspiring to
lose the league and German Cup final to rivals Dortmund. They strengthened over
the summer, in particular Javi Martinez (though expensive) has been incredible
in midfield, and they have come back harder, fitter, quicker, stronger, better
(cue Daft Punk reference) and most importantly hungrier than ever. Plus the
future’s looking very bright and the summer additions of Pep, Götze and
potentially Lewandowski will only make them better. They will definitely be the
team to beat next season.
Bappo: I
haven't been surprised by their success in the slightest. That might sound
cocky, but they were Champions League finalists last year, and invested well
last summer. So a great team just got better. They could go on to dominate
European football with Guardiola at the helm, and a lot of their players still
quite young. They also have great depth and have plugged holes where there were
some, most notably at centre-backs and in central midfield, where Javi Martinez
has simply been awesome next to the always impressive Pig-Mounter. Bayern have
been on the cusp of European greatness for a while, and they're becoming even more
dangerous and consistent. A scary proposition indeed, but one which needs to be
supported considering they have always played the right way. Well, that is
after Jens Jeremies and Steffan Effenberg left.
Chelsea have made it into the final of
the Europa League. How much of this is down to Rafa Benitez?
Cam: Rafa has done a good job
in getting Chelsea to the final, in fact he must have if Fergie’s praising his
work. Or is that mind games from SAF ahead of Sunday’s game… Anyway he’s done a
solid job and deserves some credit but Chelsea do have a very talented squad of
players at the moment and should have really been competing in the latter
stages of the Champions League. Let’s not forget that Chelsea may still finish
5th in the league and he did lose the Club World Cup final as well
as both the Carling and FA cup semi finals so he’s not exactly a magician!!
Bappo: Not
much really. He's got players ho should be hungry for titles, even if it's the
Europa League. I mean, once you're in the quarters, you've got to be interested
in winning it really. But Benitez hasn't changed anything, hasn't
revolutionised the way Chelsea approach games tactically and mentally. David
Luiz in midfield? That move was so obvious I don't really think he deserves any
credit for that. Yes, he has been dignified in the face of the torrent of abuse
hurled his way, but Rafa is also an opprtunistic egomaniac who lives in the
past and hasn't achieved anything since 2007. Considering how good the team he
inherited is, he really hasn't done much.
David Luiz has been pretty solid as a
central midfielder, and has scored two important goals against Basel. Do you
think his future lies in that position? And can you think of any players who
successfully or unsuccessfully moved from one position to the other?
Cam: David Luiz is a very talented
footballer who can play in a variety of positions: centre back, centre mid, he
even played at left and right back for Benfica! His versatility displays his
ability. He is young, powerful, quick, technically gifted and there is no
denying that he can pick a pass and hit a screamer! And for this reason he is
better in central midfield as he gets to really show us and the opposition what
he has in his locker. Plus his marking and positional sense at centre back
isn’t always the best but he is still young learning and improving. After
watching him live for the first time, I remember telling Bappo and Football Tom
that he was a special player but that he was more of a midfielder than a
defender. However, I was shot down and told that that was the typical and
mistaken English mentality; ie if a player is technically gifted, he’s wasted
at centre-back. Whereas on the Continent and around the world defenders are
generally better technically and held in higher regard as they often start the
attacking moves (ie Barcelona). This may be the case but I’m sticking with my original
opinion: David Luiz is better in midfield than defence.
In terms of players who have moved positions, the fact that Didier Drogba
was a qualified accountant playing as a right back in France is with hindsight
utterly ridiculous. Also Petr Cech started off his career as a massive striker
in the Peter Crouch mould and JT used to play in central midfield. One of the
best transformations has to be Henry changing from a winger to a prolific
striker and unfortunately for Arsenal and England fans, Theo is struggling to
do the same!
Bappo: I do
think his future is as a central midfielder. Notice I didn't say "defensive"
midfielder, even though David Luiz has made progress as a centre-back this
year. He's certainly better than Gary freaking Cahill. Luiz is technical, has
vision, two good feet and one hell of a motor; he should do well in midfield,
if he can learn to control himself a bit more. Some of his tackles really are
criminal. And we can't really say he's still learning. After all, he is 26. I
do think he offers more than Mikel (not hard) and even Ramires who, desppite
his Kenyan style of football, isn't the most technical of players. I'm just
hoping Chelsea buy Fellaini so we could have two Sideshow Bobs patrolling
midfield and creating havoc for Chelsea. Glorious.
As for players who have moved effectively from one position to the other, I think we can safely say that Drogba's coaches at Le Mans were clearly bonkers to play him at right bacj in his youth. I also remember Flamini doing really well at left-back before going into the wilderness back in midfield. Same thing for Lassana Diarra at right-back, where he once started ther efor France against Italy in a qualifier and certainly didn't look out of sorts. Jamie Carragher moving from an 'I don't cross the halfway line' right-back to centre-back was inspired. My favourite one of recent times was the positioning of Yaya Toure as an attacking midfielder. To see him bulldoze his way through teams was a joy to behold. Same thing for Fellaini at Everton with all that gorgeous hair flying around up front. Moussa Dembele's move from non-goalscoring support striker to deep lying playmaker was also genius. As for the ones who failed, I don't ever understand why Zat Knight ever played, let alone at centre-back, but that's a debate for another day. I also remember someone called 'Arry shifting Luka Modric to the left wing. Whilst the little Croatian certainly did no harm out there, it was still incredibly stupid and short-sighted to put him there. I had to say it.
Saturday, 27 April 2013
From Sunday to Saturday: Bappo's week in review
As the season draws to a close and football dominates our screens nearly every day of the week, we're going to try to make this a regular feature, with the hope of this carrying on to next season. Expect the undoubted bias and personal grudges which Bappo has always demonstrated, just like the rest of the team.
Sunday
Super Sunday. Or the usual orgy of football on Sky Sports. I had decided to Sky+ 'Goals on Sunday' even though I hadn't watched MOTD for obvious reasons (Hansen, Lawro and Shearer? A close second to the ITV trio in boredom and lazy nonsense). This was to save myself for the gluttony of football to be aired for the rest of the afternoon.
And I wasn't disappointed. Spurs-Man City was a delight, but also a microcosm of both teams' seasons. First half clearly displayed City's potential awesomeness and why they won the title last year. Tevez was full of running, Yaya was beasting everyone in midfield, Kompany was assured and the defence was solid. Tottenham, on the other hand, were unsure and losing confidence. Bale was struggling, and Adebayor was doing everything in his power to remind us of how absolutely useless he is once he's signed a new contract. It was a classic case of Spurs feeling sorry for themselves as the season comes to a close.
And then the second half started, and Spurs, turned into a 4-3-3 by the underrated tactical genius that is AVB, suddenly looked inspired and dangerous again. Dempsey, Bale and Holtby constantly changed their positions after being granted more freedom, and Spurs were in the ascendancy. Of course, it really helped that Bobby Mancini seems to have an unexplainable faith in Gareth Barry, surely the most immobile and one-dimensional central midfielder in the country (can't run, no right foot), and that Yaya Touré decided he couldn't be bothered anymore. Add to that Gaël Clichy's impersonation of Patrice Evra (the Premier League's laziest left-back when running back towards his goal) and it was a recipe for disaster for Man City.
City were torn apart by Spurs' enthusiastic running, and we once more got a glimpse of the exciting talent Tottenham have. AVB has changed many things at the club, but the biggest hurdle is the underdog mentality. When on fire like in the second half, Spurs are scary, and probably the best, most complete attacking side in the country. Change the mindset and you should have a title contender. For Bobby, it was another reminder of his own players letting him down. He's also been the architect of his own downfall this season: there was no explanation for signing Scott Sinclair in the summer, and his appearance was just comical. I'm not even sure he touched the ball. All in all though, a very pleasant game, and another sign that AVB is guiding Spurs in the right direction.
I then settled down to watch the Liverpool-Chelsea game, or the return of Rafa Benitez to Anfield. Yawn. If ever we saw that Rafa is an opportunistic potato, it was that game. Contracted to Chelsea, but open to offers from everyone. He milked that applause and it couldn't have been more obvious had he shown a 'Hire Me' sign to everyone. Desperate stuff.
Always good to see for me is John Terry on the bench. After his usual vomit-inducing declarations during the week ("There will be no frustrations publicly"), the man clearly pissed off Benitez who rightly reserved younger, more focused players for the tie. As to why Gary Cahill is still at the club, I'm constantly flabbergasted.
Liverpool, on the other hand, clearly thought this was going to be an easy win. Otherwise, how would you explain the presence of Jordan Henderson AND Stewart Downing in the starting XI? I mean, Downing's been ok. But Henderson as the central attacking midfielder, when Coutinho is also starting? That's borderline criminal.
We were treated to the usual Liverpool: good on the ball (except for Henderson), relatively solid, but so dependent on Suarez for a spark it's not even funny anymore. People talk about the Messi dependence at Barcelona (which is only partly true), but Liverpool would be just above Stoke were it not for Luis Suarez. No joke.
The first half was, frankly, quite boring. Apart from Oscar's decent header, nothing really happened. Decent possession from both sides, but that was it really.
The second half was much better. The introduction of Sturridge obviously helped. Of course. What were you thinking Brendan, you football philosopher? And to sacrifice Coutinho instead of the hapless Henderson? Shocking. But at least Sturridge came on, scored and shifted the momentum.
It was then Suarez's game from then on. From handling the ball to give away a penalty to biting Ivanovic to finally scoring a 97th minute goal, it was all about Luis. In all fairness, the game probably deserved a draw.
Now let me get to Suarez's 'incident'. I didn't see it to start with, and even after seeing it, I can't say I totally cared. The most stupid part for me? Biting Ivanovic. Not the act of biting itself. Simply the targeting of Branislav. I'm sure Suarez forgot, but Ivanovic is a Serb. You simply don't mess with those guys. No kidding. They're tough. Suarez escaped a big one. And you know what I liked most about all this? Ivanovic not even uttering an 'Ow' and getting on with the game with absolute professionalism. Superb.
What DID annoy me though, was the the constant patronising and moralising which followed on the screen. Flanked by the useless Jamie Redknapp and the very good Souness, Ed Chamberlin clearly wasn't interested in talking about a game which had had great football-related incidents. I mean, a 97th minute goal? Exciting, right? No, not to Sky.
Jamie started straight away with the moralising, with his argument that Liverpool was seen as a reference in the world for its values, similar to Barcelona. Apart from laughing at the notion that Liverpool are seen as similar to Barcelona, I was shocked by the hypocrisy of it all.
Don't get me wrong, Suarez's act was bad. Biting??!! What the hell? Souness put it perfectly by saying kids in prams bite at everything that come their way. Because that's what it is in the end. Biting. It didn't kill anyone. I'm pretty sure Haïdara would have preferred being bitten by Suarez than assaulted by McManaman. Just saying. A bite is not going to end your career. A bad, reckless challenge will.
Not only that, but I don't remember people being so vocal when Roy Keane ended Haaland's career. That was premeditated career murder. At least GBH. But here's Roy, still seen as one of the greatest (jokes) and a regular pundit. Despite having committed the most despicable act a footballer can ever do. Oh, and in related news, Joey Barton is still playing football. When he should be in prison.Just saying. The only difference between them and Suarez, apart from precedence, is that Suarez is not British/Irish. We don't have that proximity to him. Ergo, he's the devil incarnate. Shocking double standards.
The moralising was an easy way out for both pundits. Especially as they're both ex-Liverpool players, just like Lawro and Hansen on the BBC. Seriously, what's up with that? Will we have unbiased opinions if they both represent the club?
A hypocritical ending to a great afternoon of football.
Monday
The Luis Suarez story keeps going on, along with the FA's sudden realisation that they'll have to ban him but that, whatever decision they take, they'll be heavily criticised for it. Never a win-win for the FA.
Meanwhile, football goes on, with the Man Utd-Aston Villa game. We all knew how that would end. No point in watching that game. Villa are relegation candidates, and they're going to Old Trafford. of course they're going to fold. Only 3 teams really go for the win at Old Trafford every year: Chelsea (because they can), Man City (because they should) and Spurs (because they're carefree). All other teams come in with a defeatist attitude. That includes Arsenal and Liverpool. I don't care what Fergie says about it. In fact, I don't care what Fergie says about anything.
So it wasn't a surprise to see Villa not even put up a fight. It also wasn't a surprise to see RVP grab all the glory and guide Utd to the win. Whilst I mentioned the Suarez dependence above, Man Utd wouldn't have been close to the title this year without RVP.
Rooney? Please. And his stint in central midfield doesn't mean anything. he's not good enough to play there. Ferdinand? Who bailed Utd out at the start of the season when they were leaking goals left, right and centre (remember the 3-2 against Southampton? I do). Giggs? The fact he's still playing is an insult.
I know the numbers say otherwise, and that, somehow, Man Utd have roller-coasted their way to the title. But they have probably been the most functional side to do it since Mourinho's Chelsea. No inspiration due to the absence of wingers, no engine in midfield apart from Carrick (second to RVP in influence) and a shaky defence. I'm saying it through gritted teeth, but that's been one hell of an achievement by Fergie, who really is one of the best managers of all time, even if he's never revolutionised the game in ways Rinus Michels, Johann Cruyff or even Pep Guardiola have. But in terms of man-management, he's the best. After 'Arry Redknapp of course. Only joking. This title is as much down to Ferguson as it is down to RVP.
I seriously dislike Man Utd and Fergie, but I couldn't help but be impressed by their achievements this season. And then Evra got a plastic bloody arm out of nowhere and bit on it. And then Rio blurted out that 'Man Utd won it the right way, not on bloody goal difference.' And then I realised why I hated that club. Stay classy, Man Utd.
Tuesday
Barcelona get taught a lesson, and football 'fans' rejoice at their demise. Idiots.
I've been dismayed by the constant 'Barcelona are boring' point of view. People who say that don't appreciate football for what it is, and certainly don't appreciate the level of perfection Barcelona have achieved over the years. I understand success breeds dislike (just ask Man Utd), but people should appreciate what Barcelona have brought to football in general.
Guardiola's revolution has brought to us a change in football philosophy across the world. Do you think teams like Blackpool, Swansea and Brendan Rodgers (surely a team on his own) would have adopted such pleasant types of football had they not seen Barcelona constantly winning that way? And isn't the Premier League, and football in general, better for it?
In 2004, AC Milan and Juve faced each other in the Champions League final, and managed to play out the most boring of games, settling it on penalties. Less than 10 years later, all four Champions League semi-finalists played vibrant, attacking and technical football, whilst teams like Malaga and Galatasaray proceeded to do the same. THAT's Barcelona's legacy. So please, some appreciation.
Having said that, I was delighted to see Bayern win that game. They've found the perfect balance between a core of homegrown players, both from the club's youth set-up (Alaba, Lahm, Schweini) and the Bundesliga (everyone else apart from Javi Martinez, Ribery and Robben). Sure, they pay a lot, but it's local. That's to be appreciated.
And it was a deserved success. Bayern pressed high, were strong in the tackle, and played the ball intelligently, mixing intricate play with direct football. Dante and Schweinsteiger in particular were the impressive underrated players in that game.
People are surprised, but why? Bayern have been the most consistent team in the Champions League over the least couple of years. This was their 3rd semi-final in 4 years, with two of them ending in finals, including one they should have won, and certainly deserved to. So why were they always considered longer shots to the trophy than Man Utd (eliminated by the weakest group last year), Man City, Arsenal or Chelsea, who all combined to be quite dreadful. Yes, even Man Utd. It's biased and probably untrue, but I can say what I want.
As for Messi, he clearly wasn't 100%, and he was suffocated by the Bayern pressing. Does that take away all of his accomplishments? People have short memories.
Sunday
Super Sunday. Or the usual orgy of football on Sky Sports. I had decided to Sky+ 'Goals on Sunday' even though I hadn't watched MOTD for obvious reasons (Hansen, Lawro and Shearer? A close second to the ITV trio in boredom and lazy nonsense). This was to save myself for the gluttony of football to be aired for the rest of the afternoon.
And I wasn't disappointed. Spurs-Man City was a delight, but also a microcosm of both teams' seasons. First half clearly displayed City's potential awesomeness and why they won the title last year. Tevez was full of running, Yaya was beasting everyone in midfield, Kompany was assured and the defence was solid. Tottenham, on the other hand, were unsure and losing confidence. Bale was struggling, and Adebayor was doing everything in his power to remind us of how absolutely useless he is once he's signed a new contract. It was a classic case of Spurs feeling sorry for themselves as the season comes to a close.
| He can afford to smile now. |
And then the second half started, and Spurs, turned into a 4-3-3 by the underrated tactical genius that is AVB, suddenly looked inspired and dangerous again. Dempsey, Bale and Holtby constantly changed their positions after being granted more freedom, and Spurs were in the ascendancy. Of course, it really helped that Bobby Mancini seems to have an unexplainable faith in Gareth Barry, surely the most immobile and one-dimensional central midfielder in the country (can't run, no right foot), and that Yaya Touré decided he couldn't be bothered anymore. Add to that Gaël Clichy's impersonation of Patrice Evra (the Premier League's laziest left-back when running back towards his goal) and it was a recipe for disaster for Man City.
City were torn apart by Spurs' enthusiastic running, and we once more got a glimpse of the exciting talent Tottenham have. AVB has changed many things at the club, but the biggest hurdle is the underdog mentality. When on fire like in the second half, Spurs are scary, and probably the best, most complete attacking side in the country. Change the mindset and you should have a title contender. For Bobby, it was another reminder of his own players letting him down. He's also been the architect of his own downfall this season: there was no explanation for signing Scott Sinclair in the summer, and his appearance was just comical. I'm not even sure he touched the ball. All in all though, a very pleasant game, and another sign that AVB is guiding Spurs in the right direction.
I then settled down to watch the Liverpool-Chelsea game, or the return of Rafa Benitez to Anfield. Yawn. If ever we saw that Rafa is an opportunistic potato, it was that game. Contracted to Chelsea, but open to offers from everyone. He milked that applause and it couldn't have been more obvious had he shown a 'Hire Me' sign to everyone. Desperate stuff.
| 'Which shirt am I holding up?' |
Always good to see for me is John Terry on the bench. After his usual vomit-inducing declarations during the week ("There will be no frustrations publicly"), the man clearly pissed off Benitez who rightly reserved younger, more focused players for the tie. As to why Gary Cahill is still at the club, I'm constantly flabbergasted.
| Rafa's only positive move at Chelsea. |
Liverpool, on the other hand, clearly thought this was going to be an easy win. Otherwise, how would you explain the presence of Jordan Henderson AND Stewart Downing in the starting XI? I mean, Downing's been ok. But Henderson as the central attacking midfielder, when Coutinho is also starting? That's borderline criminal.
We were treated to the usual Liverpool: good on the ball (except for Henderson), relatively solid, but so dependent on Suarez for a spark it's not even funny anymore. People talk about the Messi dependence at Barcelona (which is only partly true), but Liverpool would be just above Stoke were it not for Luis Suarez. No joke.
The first half was, frankly, quite boring. Apart from Oscar's decent header, nothing really happened. Decent possession from both sides, but that was it really.
The second half was much better. The introduction of Sturridge obviously helped. Of course. What were you thinking Brendan, you football philosopher? And to sacrifice Coutinho instead of the hapless Henderson? Shocking. But at least Sturridge came on, scored and shifted the momentum.
It was then Suarez's game from then on. From handling the ball to give away a penalty to biting Ivanovic to finally scoring a 97th minute goal, it was all about Luis. In all fairness, the game probably deserved a draw.
Now let me get to Suarez's 'incident'. I didn't see it to start with, and even after seeing it, I can't say I totally cared. The most stupid part for me? Biting Ivanovic. Not the act of biting itself. Simply the targeting of Branislav. I'm sure Suarez forgot, but Ivanovic is a Serb. You simply don't mess with those guys. No kidding. They're tough. Suarez escaped a big one. And you know what I liked most about all this? Ivanovic not even uttering an 'Ow' and getting on with the game with absolute professionalism. Superb.
| Woof |
What DID annoy me though, was the the constant patronising and moralising which followed on the screen. Flanked by the useless Jamie Redknapp and the very good Souness, Ed Chamberlin clearly wasn't interested in talking about a game which had had great football-related incidents. I mean, a 97th minute goal? Exciting, right? No, not to Sky.
Jamie started straight away with the moralising, with his argument that Liverpool was seen as a reference in the world for its values, similar to Barcelona. Apart from laughing at the notion that Liverpool are seen as similar to Barcelona, I was shocked by the hypocrisy of it all.
| The master of double standards and lazy punditry. |
Don't get me wrong, Suarez's act was bad. Biting??!! What the hell? Souness put it perfectly by saying kids in prams bite at everything that come their way. Because that's what it is in the end. Biting. It didn't kill anyone. I'm pretty sure Haïdara would have preferred being bitten by Suarez than assaulted by McManaman. Just saying. A bite is not going to end your career. A bad, reckless challenge will.
Not only that, but I don't remember people being so vocal when Roy Keane ended Haaland's career. That was premeditated career murder. At least GBH. But here's Roy, still seen as one of the greatest (jokes) and a regular pundit. Despite having committed the most despicable act a footballer can ever do. Oh, and in related news, Joey Barton is still playing football. When he should be in prison.Just saying. The only difference between them and Suarez, apart from precedence, is that Suarez is not British/Irish. We don't have that proximity to him. Ergo, he's the devil incarnate. Shocking double standards.
| Yeah, that's not worse than a bite. Roy's a legend, you know. |
The moralising was an easy way out for both pundits. Especially as they're both ex-Liverpool players, just like Lawro and Hansen on the BBC. Seriously, what's up with that? Will we have unbiased opinions if they both represent the club?
A hypocritical ending to a great afternoon of football.
Monday
The Luis Suarez story keeps going on, along with the FA's sudden realisation that they'll have to ban him but that, whatever decision they take, they'll be heavily criticised for it. Never a win-win for the FA.
Meanwhile, football goes on, with the Man Utd-Aston Villa game. We all knew how that would end. No point in watching that game. Villa are relegation candidates, and they're going to Old Trafford. of course they're going to fold. Only 3 teams really go for the win at Old Trafford every year: Chelsea (because they can), Man City (because they should) and Spurs (because they're carefree). All other teams come in with a defeatist attitude. That includes Arsenal and Liverpool. I don't care what Fergie says about it. In fact, I don't care what Fergie says about anything.
So it wasn't a surprise to see Villa not even put up a fight. It also wasn't a surprise to see RVP grab all the glory and guide Utd to the win. Whilst I mentioned the Suarez dependence above, Man Utd wouldn't have been close to the title this year without RVP.
| The reason Utd won the title. |
Rooney? Please. And his stint in central midfield doesn't mean anything. he's not good enough to play there. Ferdinand? Who bailed Utd out at the start of the season when they were leaking goals left, right and centre (remember the 3-2 against Southampton? I do). Giggs? The fact he's still playing is an insult.
I know the numbers say otherwise, and that, somehow, Man Utd have roller-coasted their way to the title. But they have probably been the most functional side to do it since Mourinho's Chelsea. No inspiration due to the absence of wingers, no engine in midfield apart from Carrick (second to RVP in influence) and a shaky defence. I'm saying it through gritted teeth, but that's been one hell of an achievement by Fergie, who really is one of the best managers of all time, even if he's never revolutionised the game in ways Rinus Michels, Johann Cruyff or even Pep Guardiola have. But in terms of man-management, he's the best. After 'Arry Redknapp of course. Only joking. This title is as much down to Ferguson as it is down to RVP.
I seriously dislike Man Utd and Fergie, but I couldn't help but be impressed by their achievements this season. And then Evra got a plastic bloody arm out of nowhere and bit on it. And then Rio blurted out that 'Man Utd won it the right way, not on bloody goal difference.' And then I realised why I hated that club. Stay classy, Man Utd.
| Stay classy Patrice. |
Tuesday
Barcelona get taught a lesson, and football 'fans' rejoice at their demise. Idiots.
I've been dismayed by the constant 'Barcelona are boring' point of view. People who say that don't appreciate football for what it is, and certainly don't appreciate the level of perfection Barcelona have achieved over the years. I understand success breeds dislike (just ask Man Utd), but people should appreciate what Barcelona have brought to football in general.
Guardiola's revolution has brought to us a change in football philosophy across the world. Do you think teams like Blackpool, Swansea and Brendan Rodgers (surely a team on his own) would have adopted such pleasant types of football had they not seen Barcelona constantly winning that way? And isn't the Premier League, and football in general, better for it?
In 2004, AC Milan and Juve faced each other in the Champions League final, and managed to play out the most boring of games, settling it on penalties. Less than 10 years later, all four Champions League semi-finalists played vibrant, attacking and technical football, whilst teams like Malaga and Galatasaray proceeded to do the same. THAT's Barcelona's legacy. So please, some appreciation.
Having said that, I was delighted to see Bayern win that game. They've found the perfect balance between a core of homegrown players, both from the club's youth set-up (Alaba, Lahm, Schweini) and the Bundesliga (everyone else apart from Javi Martinez, Ribery and Robben). Sure, they pay a lot, but it's local. That's to be appreciated.
And it was a deserved success. Bayern pressed high, were strong in the tackle, and played the ball intelligently, mixing intricate play with direct football. Dante and Schweinsteiger in particular were the impressive underrated players in that game.
| Dante: underrated. Great piece of scouting by Bayern. |
People are surprised, but why? Bayern have been the most consistent team in the Champions League over the least couple of years. This was their 3rd semi-final in 4 years, with two of them ending in finals, including one they should have won, and certainly deserved to. So why were they always considered longer shots to the trophy than Man Utd (eliminated by the weakest group last year), Man City, Arsenal or Chelsea, who all combined to be quite dreadful. Yes, even Man Utd. It's biased and probably untrue, but I can say what I want.
As for Messi, he clearly wasn't 100%, and he was suffocated by the Bayern pressing. Does that take away all of his accomplishments? People have short memories.
Wally's Round Table: Jens and Didier vs Gravity and Shame
1- Man City - West Ham. We've gone through Arsenal last week, now name who you'd get rid of at Man City after a disappointing season, and who you think should arrive.
Chaka Demus: Given the enormity of their squad, this could be quite a long list; however, I am just going to name the players that I know and should leave. Defenders: Richards, Maicon, Toure, Lescott - whilst the middle 2 might not be the youngest anymore, they are still all too good to be second team players. Midfielders: Sinclair, Rodwell - serves these 2 muppets right for going to Man City that they have sat on the bench all year but it is now time for them to leave with their tales between their legs. Forwards: Dzeko - is a very handy striker when he wants to be and like the others I have named, shouldn't be sitting on the bench waiting for an injury/change of formation to have a run out.
Who do I think should arrive? Zlatan - I'd love to see the big fella in the Prem. I know it won't happen though. It depends on who leaves but I think maybe a centre back to keep Kompany company (wahey!) and also a striker - Falcao?
| Appropriate that he posed in the changing rooms. |
Cam: Out – Kolo Toure, Barry, Nasri, Maicon, Tevez, maybe Dzeko and Lescott because they don’t play enough.
In – Lewandowski or Falcao, Isco, Bale, Chiellini, De Rossi all possibilities
Panth: Flotsam and jetsam could be City's new nickname. Perhaps an ornate, once glorious, piece of furniture now redundant and a little ragged could be their mascot. With this in mind Nasri, Dzeko, Barry, Clichy, Kolo T and Maicon to start.
True competition for Tevez and Aguero, more midfielders and a goalie to bring the best out of Hart.
Did I mention get rid of Nasri. The man offends me. He has such incredible talent but spends most of the time looking pedestrian!
Football Tom: The single biggest reason behind Man City's disappointing season has been their poor transfer dealings over the summer. Bar Nastasic - an inspired piece of business, none of the players who have come in have made a large impact. City's initial focus should be ridding themselves of deadwood. Scott Sinclair had an excellent maiden Premier league season but should find another club - for his career's sake and for City's. Maicon is past it and should leave. City also play their best football when they have a technical, fast and flexible font four (Nasri, Silva, Tevez, Aguero). For this reason, I believe Dzeko, despite his obvious abilities, should move to a club more suited to his style of play.
In terms of signings, City should focus on strengthening in the middle of the park and on the wings. Barry is getting older and Rodwell, as of yet, is not developing into the player he promised to be 3 years ago. Diame or Etienne Capoue could be good cheapish options..If Sheikh Mansour is willing to open the chequebook, then Wilshere, Vidal or Rossi could be worth a bid.
Offensive strengthening is also on the cards - Robben is apparently available following Bayern's purchase of Gotze and I feel he still has a couple of good seasons left in him. Cavani seems to have been on the verge of signing for City for the past 18 months and could bolster their attacking options if Dzeko was to leave. Either way, there is little doubt that City will need strengthening (properly) in the summer months.
2- Everton - Fulham. Leighton Baines has been sensational this season. Do you think he'll stay at Everton next season, or will he move? If he does move, where do you see him ending up?
Chaka Demus: He'd be great at Arsenal but will they displace Monreal? How many more seasons does Patrice Evra have in him? I think Baines would be dynamite at Man Utd. Having said that, I think he is proud to be an Everton player and if Moyes stays and is given a bit of money to raise the overally quality of the squad; I think Leighton will stay.
Cam: He has had a top season and I do think he’ll move on to a Champions League side. I know Man U are keen, City and Tottenham will also probably make an offer. I can’t see him going abroad, although he’s definitely good enough.
Panth: A disgrace he wasn't among the player of the year list. Who did Hazard have to pay to get in there. Extremely talented player and has had good games this year but too inconsistent to be in the top 5 players in the league. The man basically hibernated once it got cold.
I guess someone always has to lose out. But It's just a shame they can't choose more than a token gesture from outside the top 4 and that was always going to be Suarez (rightly so).
Hard to say where he will go. Tottenham perhaps, possibly United? I wouldn't say no he'd be an improvement on Evra and with a few more years in him
The man needs to stop taking fashion and grooming tips from Bradley Wiggins he can't pull it off. Silly mod.
| Wiggo looks good. Leighton? Not so much |
I believe he'll still be at Everton next season - Leighton is a bit of a home bird and apparently suffers from home sickness. He just seems so settled at Everton it's hard to see him leaving.
If he can manage to venture beyond Merseyside however, United seem an obvious destination. Evra has had a mini revival this year, but one still feels that left back position is up for grabs, especially considering that Buttner is far from the finished article. I'll be surprised if Ferguson doesn't buy another left back this year, and that left back could be 'Bainesy'.
3- Wigan - Tottenham. Martinez vs AVB. Who would you rather take as your new manager, and why?
Chaka Demus: Very good question. I think it would depend on the team they were managing. A struggling/developing team - Martinez. A team with a higher standard of players - AVB. It's hard to judge Martinez on what he would be a capable of with a top-10 side.
Cam: I’m a big fan of Martinez. I have been for a while and the way in which he has got Wigan to the FA cup this season is incredible. Hopefully he keeps them up and then gets the bigger job he deserves.
| A lot of love for both |
Panth: I think AVB has to have the edge purely because of a broader experience working within top class clubs. Although I do have a soft spot for Martinez. In a world of ranting managers, questionable player actions he on the whole comports himself well. Right so shag AVB, marry Martinez and knock off Benitez...
Football Tom: Great question and two very, very good managers.
AVB and Martinez share several characteristics: both place an emphasis on possession football played on the ground and usually favour a high line and pressing defensive game (sometimes to their expense, as Villas Boas discovered at Chelsea). Refreshingly, they also show very little bias or prejudice in their player selection: age, nationality or reputation don't come into the decision process. If you're good enough, you'll play for them.
It's a difficult one. AVB has a marginally superior CV, especially on the European scene. His exploits at Porto were breathtaking. By the time he left, they were genuinely one of the top sides in world football (admittedly having Falcao in your team helps). Martinez has done more in England as his achievements with Wigan should not be understated. Ultimately, my decision would be based on the club in question. If I was a mid table team looking to push on, i'd plump for Martinez. If I were a side outside of the BPL I'd opt for AVB.
4- Stoke - Norwich. If they both survive, which team will struggle the most next season?
Chaka Demus: Sadly, I think Norwich will struggle the most...
Cam: Stoke’s dip in form has been worrying. Pretty much since the turn of the year, their form has nosedived. They were never the best away from home, but Fortress Britannia is not what it used to be and I do worry for Tony Pulis’ men.
| Tony's keeping the hat on because he's losing his hair |
Panth: I fear for Stoke. It feels like they have been found out a little this year, while also a suffering a slump in performance level. Perhaps if Pulis brings in new blood it might give them fresh impetuous. Otherwise they are certainly my choice of the two.
Football Tom: Stoke. I think teams are starting to figure them out, and beyond their brand of hoofball they have little to offer. Their win against QPR has probably kept them up, but I foresee a difficult season ahead.
5- Southampton - West Brom. Shane Long is one of those strikers who does a lot but isn't prolific. What do you make of these players? Any other come to mind?
Chaka Demus: I would take a Shane Long over a Mario Balotelli any day. The main man would be Dirk Kuyt - "HE WORKS HARD, BUT HE'S RUBBISH!". Loud Jon at his very best. I would also say James Milner.
Cam: True he works hard… Emile Heskey springs to mind? Although he is apparently tearing up the A league!!
| Emile: a tough act to follow for Shane Long. |
Panth: It really reflects the almost autistic view we have of strikers especially in this country. I think he's a good player who will probably always be slightly underrated outside the circles inhabited by football aficionados.
Football Tom: I remember the unprolific but selfless centre forward being incredibly en vogue in the early to mid noughties, but seems to have died out in more recent years as managers, unsurprisingly, seem to have collectively decided that they want goals from their attacking players. This has partly to do with changes in formation: 4-5-1 is less popular now than it was 5-8 years ago, and partly to do with an overall shift to more offensive football (except Stoke).
A couple of examples immediately spring to mind: Heskey was a willing runner at Liverpool and perfect foil for goalhanger Mickey Owen, who got all the plaudits. As a Fulham fan, I also remember Zamora having a couple of successful but unprolific seasons where he was excellent at bringing people into play, but less good at sticking the ball in the back of the net.
But as Bappo has mentioned, the unprolific striker could be making a comeback. Shane Long always performs impressively despite rarely scoring, and Danny Wellbeck - despite obvious technical qualities - scores much less than he should.
6- Newcastle - Liverpool. We're going to make it simple. Luis Suarez: should he stay or should he go?
Chaka Demus: I think it's time for Luis to pack his bags to be honest. The Evra thing was bad enough but biting another player is just inexcusable. If anyone else in any other walk of life were to do that in any public place, you'd be arrested. Given that he's now banned until September; I don't think we'll be seeing him in the Prem next season.
Cam: Let’s put his biting, diving, racism and all round despicable behaviour to the side. He is a top quality player and will probably join a Champions League side when the transfer window opens.
Panth: Stay. He's pure box office. I want my football to reflect both the good and bad. It's what makes the game so endlessly interesting. Who wants a sanitised sport. Every sport has its scandals but football is particularly good at it.
Furthermore we all need a hate figure to rally around and spark debate. Am I going to talk about the rise of the inverted pyramid as the new tactical touchstone or the emergence of high pressing defensive formations while having a pint? No. I'm gonna talk about Suarez acting like a dick.
7- Reading - QPR. Both are going down. Which one would you take next year in the Championship if you could manage one or the other?
Chaka Demus: I would take Reading as they are a team and a club with some kind of integrity and determination. QPR are an embarrassment.
Cam: Good question. Maybe QPR because although they will lose a lot of players, they do have a good financial backing from Mr Fernandes who does seem to be in it for the long haul. Cue him and Harry to bail once they get relegated…
| Fernandes: consistency in being a clown. |
Panth: Reading seems a far better run football club so I'd go with them. I respect that. QPR may have a seemingly bottomless pit of money. But who would be surprised if the arse falls out from under them.
Tony Fernandes seems to have a penchant for developing failing sports teams. Anyone who watches F1 will know how he's guided successive teams to last in the championship. The man has consistency i'll give him that...just the wrong kind.
Football Tom: Reading, without a shadow of a doubt. They know the Championship, the type of players and tactics needed to get promoted from it, and they budget sensibly. QPR are simply a shambles: no apparent strategy, a lack of leadership, and a collection of individuals rather than a team. Tony Fernandes may know how to run an airline, but so far he he has proved less than adept at running a football club.
8- Chelsea - Swansea. This fixture will be remembered this year mostly for the ball boy incident. Which other moments do you remember as being outrageously stupid this season (or in the past)?
Chaka Demus: The Darrent Bent beach ball goal still makes me laugh every time I see it. The Graham Poll 3 yellow cards. That Frenchman, Cantona, karate kicking a Palace fan all those years back. Those are 3 that come to mind...
| "Next one and you're off" |
Cam: Ball boy incident was a shambles. Also the beach ball against Liverpool last season. Overall this season will end up being remembered for racism, an inconsistent FA and biting.
Panth: How about that classic doubles match of Jens Lehmann and Didier Drogba VS gravity and shame. Who'd have thought the underdogs would have won that match up. Football and its reputation really struck a seam of shit that night.
Thankfully my faith in football was reaffirmed when photos of Lehmann and Drogba sharing a beer at Oktoberfest were published in 2011. Throw in the fact Drogba is kitted out in Lederhosen and you have one of the most glorious photo series since Hugh Hefner managed to convince Cindy Crawford posing for Playboy was a good career choice.
| Wow. |
Football Tom: Well, one very recent moment springs to mind… Suarez carnivorous assault on Ivanovic defied belief (seriously… who bites someone!?-) and is probably the single most shocking moment of the season so far. It'll be interesting to see what Wally thinks of the 10 game ban handed to Liverpool's star striker, and whether it will affect Suarez' decision in the summer.
Bar those two incidents however, I can't think of too many outrageous moments in the BPL this year. We've had a couple of good ones with Dortmund in the Champions League, but all in all it's been two admittedly outrageous moments rather than a cascade of incidents.
But if you're looking for outrageously stupid acts in football, you should really focus your attention on a different continent. Here are a couple of incidents from the past couple of years in South America
- An Brazilian goalkeeper linked with AC Milan is arrested for the murder of his lover
- A Colombain defender kicks the team mascot, a living owl and promptly sparks a mass brawl
- River Plate fans unveil the longest football flag in the world, over 7km in length
Que loco! Luis would feel right at home.
9- Arsenal - Man Utd. Once deadly rivals for the title, how big do you think the gap is between these two now?
Chaka Demus: Pretty vast. Men against boys. I'd like to see Arsenal win this weekend but I don't think they will. Looking forward to hearing RVP's welcome back to the Emirates!
Cam: The gap is big. Arsenal must try and bridge it with a few top signings this summer. Spend some cash Arsène and don’t even think about selling Wilshere to Man U!
| "Please love me when I come back. Just because I won something shouldn't make you hate me..." |
Panth: Champions!! I could mention the fact Giggs has won as many titles as Arsenal but that would confirm how annoying all Man Utd fans are (we definitely are). Regardless though united are streets ahead. Van Persie's move is symbolic of the two clubs current positions. Arsenal may narrow the gap next year but they certainly won't bridge it.
The moment on Sunday where arsenal clap united on to the pitch while forming a guard of honour will be a depressing sight for Arsenal once great challengers of ours. In all seriousness I do miss those halcyon days when United-Arsenal games were like watching two finely poised and highly skilled ballet dancers kicking the shit out of each other with dynamite tipped shoes.
Football Tom: Large but not insurmountable. I am starting to wonder whether I might be the eternal Arsenal optimist, but in my mind the north london club has all the foundations to succeed: a sustainable financial model (a la Dortmund/Bayern - very 'a la mode' at the moment), a great academy with a large catchment area, a large London and international fan base, regular Champions League participation… Current players at the club aren't quite world class and it's been ages since they've won a title, but with a couple of key signings (please, please buy a recognised goalkeeper Arsene) they could compete.
We have to acknowledge that a large psychological barrier now seems to engulf the gunners, but none of these are unconquerable - just look at Spain, once perennial underachievers and now the biggest force in world football. All it takes is one moment, one title, and Arsenal could get their mojo back. In Arsene I still trust, just.
10- Aston Villa - Sunderland. If both teams survive, which one do you see progressing the most next season?
Chaka Demus: Sunderland. Unless Villa spend, spend, spend over the summer!
Cam: Villa are a very young team but Paolo really seems to have revitalized and rejuvenated the Black Cats. I can see him bringing in some big signings and building a solid squad which will be aiming for the top half of the league next season.
| Still a mixed reception for Paolo. |
Panth: Aston Villa. Hopefully. I dislike everything Di Canio stands for and I think (hope) it will all implode at some point. He can galvanise over the short term and can ride high on the new manager bounce but I'm sceptical over the longer term.
This comment of course now means Sunderland will push for a Europa league place next year.
I like what Paul Lambert is doing with Villa. He has had a lot to contend with given the club was stripped of most of its assets in the last couple few years. Villa better hope Benteke stays or all their young players come through ad hoped otherwise it would be another tough year for them.
Football Tom: Villa's young team are obvious candidates , if only because their team is a lot younger, and therefore has larger potential to grow. For many of Lambert's players, this was their first senior season, never mind first season in the Premier League: it was bound to be a daunting experience. Sunderland's case is more complex, their squad is older and seemed jaded, especially under MON. Both teams will need to add to their squads in the summer, but add in very different ways. Villa need an injection of quality and experience; Sunderland an injection of energy and creativity.
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