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Friday 3 May 2013

Wally's Mayday Round Table: Ludacris, Chiellini and George W Bush and no this is not a game of Shag, Marry, Avoid.


1.     Swansea v Man City

In spite of their amazing season, there is no denying that Swansea have taken their foot off the gas since their League Cup triumph. Was this inevitable or should Mr Laudrup and Co shoulder some responsibility for this sheer complacency?

CHAKA - I think it was inevitable really. They had their cup win and place in Europe next year sewed up and have checked out early. There wasn't much more for them to play for and that shows in their rather lacklustre performances since then. I'm not excusing it and I think Laurdrup should have done more to keep the momentum going because, as it stands, they will start next season very much on the back foot.   

KD - Swansea have undoubtedly performed incredibly well this season. I think it is to be expected to a certain degree; all the players are likely fatigued (there isn’t a lot of rotation in that very small squad!) and I think the early season efforts have taken their toll. For me, Swansea’s summer policy should be to add depth if they are to maintain their premier league standing.

BAP - Sure they've taken their foot off the gas, but what's the point in fighting for 8th rather than 12th? The financial differences aren't massive, and Swansea are already guaranteed European football next year. Considering they've basically been assured of Premier League safety since January, I think it's only fair that they've relaxed. Complacency? Sure, and I'm pretty positive even Laudrup himself has let himself go a little bit. Inevitable? Probably. But I wouldn't put it past Laudrup to have been planning for next season already whilst his players casually see the season out. Enjoyable for everyone involved.

Congratulations Michael but keep up the hard work!

2.     Fulham v Reading

Where are the key areas that Reading need to strengthen for next season. And which, if any, of their players do you think are good enough to playi in the Premier League next season.

CHAKA - I don't think they will necessarily need to strengthen next year. They are a competent Championship side and unfortunately therein lies the problem. They needed to strengthen before moving up to the Prem but didn't do so. I saw an interview with Adam Le Fondre this week and he stated his possible intentions to leave; however, do a few super-sub goals make you worthy of playing in the top flight? I have my doubts to be honest. 

KD - Pretty much all of them. This might be slightly unfair (I’m obviously just frustrated that we’ve been relegated – even if it was blatantly expected), but I am worried that some of the current players will not be up for the championship fight. I feel the most important transfer work Adkins and his team can do this summer is to recognise those players that are prepared to stand tall and scrap week in, week out and sound out the dead wood – the players on high wages that fancy one last pay cheque, a.k.a rinsing our parachute payments – and ditch them a.s.a.p. My initial attention is on Danny Guthrie and Pavel Pogrebnyak, and almost certainly Daniel Carrico! I do not think many of our players are good enough for the Prem; perhaps Jem Karacan and Adam Le Fondre. There is transfer mumbo jumbo surrounding Brendan Rodgers seeing Alex Pearce as an ideal replacement for Carragher. As a Reading fan, let me tell you, he is not. Alex Pearce is a very average defender, as are Sean Morrison and Adrian Mariappa. Whatever we do, we must keep Alex McCarthy at the club and in the first team. What a player!

Too much of this at Reading?

BAP - Reading were the Sylvan Ebanks-Blake of Premier League teams: great in the Champo, not good enough in the Prem. There's no shame in that, and at least they stuck to their beliefs, values and ideals. That's right QPR, that was a dig right at you. You deserve it. reading should be fine in the Championship. I don't think they'll go down again but they will struggle to go back up, simply because motivation will be hard to find again and the Championship is one of the most competitive leagues in the world. Reading won't lose a lot of players because none of them really belongs in the Prem, but they might need to freshen the place up a little bit. As for players good enough to play in the Prem, I just know some team is going to buy Adam Le Fondre, even though he has no Premier League quality. Whenever he's started a game this season, he's been shit. Honestly. I do think that Alex McCarthy in goal would be a good sneaky buy for some team ready to give a young English keeper a chance (West Ham? Jussi is class but getting old), whilst Jem Karacan has the quality to play for a team like Fulham or below them. Stephen Kelly has obviously got Prem experience, but I'm not sure he's good enough anymore. Someone will put in a stupid bid for Pav (heartstrings) Pogrebnyak even though he's been shocking. Finally, I hope some team like Utd or City put in a bid for Mikele Leigertwood. The boy is just class. That obviously was a joke. But don't put it past City: after all, they did buy Jack Rodwell and Scott Sinclair last season. We know how that ended up.

Bappo likens Reading to this man.



3.     Norwich v Villa

After their emphatic 6-1 win over Paolo “I’m a fascist, not a racist” Di Canio’s team, has the media been unfairly critical of Paul Lambert’s young, inexperienced and largely British team this season? Also is Benteke world class? And where can you see Darren Bent next season?

CHAKA - Something that has annoyed me this year is the excuses, as well as unfair media criticism, that have been made of the inexperience and youthfulness of Lambert's side. They are the first XI of one of the most established clubs in England and, in my eyes, shouldn't be judged any differently even if most of them haven't started shaving yet. What Lambert is starting at Villa is comparable to Rodgers at Liverpool, just with a far smaller budget. It is obviously going to take time but I think overall he is doing admirably well. 
At times they have been truly diabolical and at others magnificent - thanks in large part to the Belgian/Austrian pair up front. Any player that scores 18 (and maybe more) goals in his first season (one behind the PFA Player of the Year) in a very average, relegation-threatened side has had an extremely good year. Too early to say he is 'world class' but he certainly could be. 
Darren Bent is going to join Palace over the summer. He and Glenn Murray will be unstoppable in the 2013/14 season. Who needs Wilfried Zaha?

Great striker and he loves snowball fights - what's not to love?
KD – Benteke is unbelievable Jeff!! I love watching him play and score goals from positions and plays that many other strikers would not even see, let alone finish emphatically. I think he certainly has the potential to soon be considered ‘world class’ – the caveat being that he will need to maintain that form next season and onwards. Darren Bent for me is still a conundrum. When did he go from being a £24m striker to a warming the bench if he was lucky striker. I know what many will say: ‘he was never a £24m striker in the first place KD’, and yes you may be right, but he was certainly a bottom three starter. I can see him moving on but I can’t tell you where; back to Sunderland maybe? That’s my punt anyway. And back to the first question (sorry CAM), I’m not even sure the media have been that harsh. They have truly been poor and I think they deserve to be where they are. The fact that the team is largely British just shows what a poor state the British youth set up is in. There are some decent players coming through, sure, but the depth of quality is missing.


BAP - Lambert has been a victim of his success as much as Lerner's supposed reluctance to spend (I say 'reluctance' because Villa did spend £8.3m on Benteke). At Norwich, he fashioned a side out of no money and from the lower leagues, all while buying young, hungry English players. He's come in with the same task ahead, but his team has been found out so many times this year, especially defensively. Because of injuries and some bad signings (hello Ron Vlaar. You might have scored a blinder but you still can't defend), Lambert has had to blood in many youngsters. And, whilst people like Lowton have stepped up, others like Clark, Baker and Bannan are still subdued by the responsibility. This is especially disappointing from  Clark and Bannan who were meant to be the brightest prospects to come out of the Villa academy for years. But I do think criticism has been fair to Lambert as some of his signings have been very poor, and his team is unorganised, which is down to him as much as the players.
As for Bentekkers, I don't think he's world class. He reminds me of Demba Ba and Papiss Cisse (of last season that is, because Papiss has done his best George W Bush impression and gone AWOL), and you wouldn't call them world class, would you? I do see the potential in Bentekkers to be a very good player, he's got everything going for him. By the way, his great season has made us forget two things: 1) Andreas Weimann is also having a very, very good season and look a tidy little player, and 2) Gabriel Agbonlahor has become really, really average. As in, Fernando Torres-like fall from grace. Except he was never that good to start with. And he hasn't become as bad. But you get my point.

Papiss Cissé doing the George W Bush


4. WBA v WIgan

Are Wigan as good as relegated after Monday night’s massive win for Villa or do you still give them a chance of beating the drop? And is the FA Cup final against Man City, impressive as it may be, a major hindrance for Martinez’s men in their quest for survival?

CHAKA - I think they are toast to be honest; however, they do have a game in hand on those around them. If they had held out for a win against Spurs at the weekend, I think they could have done it. The fact that Figueroa is out for the rest of the season isn't going to help either. 

Wigan - according to Chakademus


KD – Unfortunately I think Wigan’s premier league dream is over. I love Wigan and I love Roberto Martinez. Maybe I will rephrase: I love Wigan because I love Roberto Martinez. I think they will end up ‘doing a Portsmouth’; achieving so much in a competition that ultimately counts for nothing if you are relegated from the most financially generous league in the world. And let’s face it, they almost certainly won’t win the final.

BAP - I wouldn't put it past Wigan to pull it off, not only because they've done it before, but most importantly because teams like Newcastle (surprisingly), Sunderland (less surprisingly) and Villa are also quite s**t. Newcastle are certainly doing their utmost to join the relegation party. It's also quite impressive that there's even talk of Wigan surviving. After all, their team isn't reall full of quality. Need I mention Alcaraz and others? Thank god for Emerson Boyce. I don't think the FA Cup final will be that much of a distraction: if they win, it'll spur them on to survive and, if they lose, it should do the same. Of course, the disappointment of losing or the surreal joy of winning might make them forget about everything else, but Wigan are a team which clearly listen to their manager, and I don't see Martinez going all crazy or depressed because of the FA Cup final.

5.     West Ham v Newcastle

Big Sam hosts his old team with West Ham sitting comfortably above the Toon Army in the league table. Was larger than life Mike Ashley wrong to sack Big Sam and delusional to award Alan Pardew that 8 year contract?

CHAKA - As much as Big Sam makes me laugh and I appreciate for being a manager that speaks his mind; it wasn't an error to sack him. If I wanted to watch route one, lump it up to the big front man football; I'd go across the road to my local park on a Sunday morning. 
The 8 year contract was a real shock; especially after the sacking of Hughton. I do like Pards but an 8 year contract is an outrageous risk. I can honestly say that the Toon's performance in their 0-6 thrashing by Liverpool at the weekend was one of the most pathetic displays of football (especially at home) I have ever seen. He has a lot to do to instill some sense of pride and fight into his team for their last 3 games... 

KD - Delusional on the 8 year contract for sure! Who does that nowadays?!?! I know England love a 5 year contract for a one-year manager but 8 years is just Luda! I like Big Sam, he is a cracking manager. If he starves off that impending heart attack and get’s a reasonable summer transfer kitty I can see them finishing mid-table again next season. If either of the above don’t happen, they are going down.

Mike Ashley's decision-making: Luda!

BAP - It was wrong to sack Sam, even at the time. Newcastle were comfortable and that's where they deserved to be. But I guess his sacking did help takng Newcastle down, which in turn finally sorted the place out and brought some common sense to delusional fans thinking of Premier League glory. The 8 year contract was ridiculous: a 4 year contract (not unheard of) would have been enough to show faith in Pards. But I'm sure that contract has a lot of very helpful clauses to get rid of Pardew. It must be flexible. And Ashley knows what he's doing, business-wise. He's run the club fantastically well since they went down, and perhaps Tony Fernandes can learn from Ashley's experience, although I doubt he will due to his massive ego.

So sacking Sam was sort of wrong, but his style of football is also just Kieron Dyer. It's embarrassing really. Just slightly better than Stoke in my eyes. As for Pards, is he the man of the hour? I don't think he's that great, so an 8-year contract (already a lot for any manager) is a bit uncalled for. Superb beard though. If he keeps it, I don't mind having him in the Prem for 8 years. Glorious.

6.     Spurs v Southampton

So after an exceptional season Gareth Bale has been crowned PFA Player and Young player of the season. Whilst there cannot be too many complaints about his Young Player award, was he really the best player in the league this season or can top scorer RVP and top cannibal Luis Suarez feel aggrieved to have been overlooked by their fellow professionals? Also shouldn’t the voting take place after the season has officially ended? And finally where will Bale be playing his football next season?

CHAKA - Firstly, there was no way Luis Suarez was going to win it. Not a chance. And in any case, no-one was going to vote for him for fear that he went after them with his nashers if he lost... The fact that Bale won both the young and overall awards was odd. I think RVP deserved the old man/salt and pepper one. He'll probably win the golden clog though so he'll happy with that. 
If Spurs make Champions League, I think he'll stay. If not; I could see him making the traditional Spurs-Man Utd move or to the blue side of Manchester. For some reason I don't see him going to Europe just yet.

KD - Good point. I am surprised that RVP didn’t win; I am not surprised that Suarez didn’t win (just because someone who sets such a bad example will struggle to win awards and, in my opinion, rightly so). Bale was immense this season gone and I’m sure many clubs will be enquiring over his signature this summer. I can’t tell if he will leave or not. Indeed, I’m not p-sychic. I would love to see him stay in the premier league, and I think AVB has the ability to convince him. We also know that Daniel Levy is an extremely tough negotiator and very stubborn when necessary (see Luka Modric fiasco), so if he decides to put his foot down then Bale may not get a choice!

BAP - Bale will stay at Spurs. Where would he go? He doesn't fit the Real Madrid "worlwide superstar" kind of signing, he doesn't fit Barca's way of playing, Bayern don't really need him and PSG aren't interested. Who else is going to buy him? If Spurs got £35m for Berbatov at 28, how much do you think they'll ask for Bale if Man Utd come sniffing. And I do believe bale is clever enough not to go to Man City or Chelsea. So he'll stay.

As to whether he's the best player this season, I'm not so sure. He has scored a lot of goals for his club and Spurs do depend on him. So have Liverpool and Man Utd with Suarez and RVP respectively. Perhaps even more, even though RVP does have Carrick to help him out (don't laugh). Mata was good but not flashy enough I feel. As for Hazard, he's had a very good, underrated first season in the Prem. Crazy considering he cost £30m. So Bale probably just edged it, but I have a feeling Suarez would have won it if he hadn't done all his shenanigans. Good thing for Bale actually, because we all remember of much he dived early in the season. I mean, 5 yellow cards just for diving? We seem to have forgotten that pretty quickly!

Bale in full flight

7.     QPR v Arsenal

So ‘Arry and Tony Fernandes are “definitely staying” at QPR but how many of their current players can you see playing in the Championship next season?

CHAKA - A lot will jump ship. Clint Hill will stay because he is a lionheart and a true leader of men; but a lot of them will consider themselves too superior to play in the Champ and go elsewhere.

KD - About three of that current squad are man enough for the championship. I think there will be an overhaul this summer with Fernandes losing mega dosh on most of the big names just in order to get them off the wage bill. Of that squad, here is a list of players I don’t see being there (unless just to keep picking up the gash and playing in the reserves) next season:
Julio Cesar, Bosingwa, Fabio, Samba, M’Bia, Granero, Taarabt, Park, Remy, Cisse, Zamora
Having said that, I think the players that might stay that are, at least on paper, decent players are: Green, Onuoha, Young, SWP, Hoilett, Johnson, Mackie, and Bothroyd (I use the term ‘decent’ very generously).

BAP - What I do like with that QPR team, in a certain twisted kind of way, is that it's so obvious who cares and who doesn't, because the players simply don't hide it. Clint Hill? Cares. Jose Bosingwa? Could not care less. Too busy joking around with Daniel Carrico after the draw which sent their teams down. Kudos, boys. Way to show you care. This comment also clearly applies to Adel Taarabt (only cares about himself) Chris Samba, Park Ji-Sung (well done on naming him your captain Mark Hughes!), Armand Traore, Nedum Onuoha, Shaun Wright-Phillips and...well, pretty much the whole of the team.

We all know what's going to happen now. We're going to hear players coming out in the press saying they want to help QPR bounce back (we heard that from Granero already) because the fans are so great, it has great potential, the owners are lovely and London is lovely this time of year. Then we'll see a mad, unofficial rush to get released or transferred for cheap. There's fighting talk from Fernandes about not letting any players go, and not needing to, but the club is haemorraging (hope that's the right way it's spelt) money as we speak, so they'll have to let players go.

Remy is already gone, Samba will somehow find a team despite being abysmal since his return, Granero should leave to a better club, and someone stupid will bet on SWP 'rediscovering his form'. And Julio Cesar will do well to get out of there.

The rest will be back. Expect Taarabt to still be there and behave like a spoilt little brat. Either that or some idiotic manager will buy him, play him down the left wing and be surprised that he's misbehaving.

Basically, to answer your question, I have no idea who'll still be there next season apart from Clint Hill.

Lionheart Clint Hill


8.     Liverpool v Everton

Simply put, which of these Merseyside clubs has had the better season and why?

CHAKA - Had this question been asked a few months ago, I would have said Everton. However they have had a bit of a shakey spell since their FA Cup exit. Liverpool were very slow out of the blocks at the start of the year but have grown steadily stronger and more unified and demolished the Toon. What Rodgers is doing is certainly working but is taking time. 
I think overall I'll have to say Everton but if they lose Moyes this summer they will be in trouble. I see a much brighter year for Liverpool next year. I sound like Mystic Meg...

KD - Big game, big game! Everton, definitely. Liverpool’s season slowly warmed up after January but, ultimately, Everton have bettered their neighbours once more. Ouch!

BAP – Very good question that. Can we qualify Everton's season as a success considering they are exactly where they should be? Can we say Liverpool have done well considering they're nowhere close to where they think (crazily by the way) they should be? Liverpool have made the better signings, although I'd like to know what Assaidi is here for. Seriously, is he a professional footballer? Is he Brendan Rodgers' cleaner? Questions that need answers.

Liverpool are obviously better set for the future, and seem to have found a footballing style which might pay dividends if they manage to teach Jordan Henderson how to take a touch and Stewart Downing how to cross/shoot/use his right foot/lift his head up/pass properly. Getting Martin Skrtel to remember what defending is would also be valuable, as Carra can't be there forever. And finally, Joe Allen? Positives and negatives no doubt.

Everton have been the most consistent team whilst Liverpool have been more impressive if you count out their ugly start to the season. Make out of that what you will.


9.     Man U v Chelsea

Where do both of these clubs need to strengthen for next season?

CHAKA - Man Utd - a bulldozer in central midfield. Now that Paul Scholes is done I miss the hilarity of his tackling. We need that back with someone else. Chelsea - a new centre back I think. I'd love to see Chiellini in the Premiership.

Chiellini would be great in the Premier League


KD - Man Utd: Both flanks and a central midfielder (some may say centre back, but Fergie seems to think not)
Chelsea: Central defence and a striker

BAP - Man Utd, without a shadow of a doubt. Surprising? Not really. Their best players are too old and will break down eventually. Vidic has already started, we all know Rio can play 3 games a week (except for England, when he can't play once a week) but his back is broken, RVP is due a long-term injury (sad thing to say) and dependable Carrick is the wrong side of 30 (and criminally underrated). And remember, Patrice Evra is their starting left-back. That's the guy who can't be arsed to run back when he's lost the ball up the pitch. And he's their left back! Can we also stop talking about Ryan Giggs and Paul Scholes? They're irrelevant now.

United's younger players are getting there but are still not anything close to good enough to lead a title challenge by themselves. And certainly not good enough for Champions League glory. Please don't give me any of that "Phil Jones is the next England captain" crap. FYI, Phil Jones is one year older than Raphael Varane of Real Madrid, and look at the difference in composure, tactical and technical ability! A bit harsh, no doubt, but Jones isn't there yet. Oh, and another news flash: Danny Welbeck is not good enough. There. I said it. As for Tom Cleverley, Chris Smalling and Rafael, the jury is still out.

Apart from those 2 groups of players? Nani, Anderson, Ashley Young, Antonio Valencia (the Premier League's ultimate one-trick pony with his "run down the right hand side, stop, push the ball forward, cross" trick. A close second of course is Gareth Barry's beautiful "jog, control ball, avoid right foot, look up, avoid right foot, walk with ball, avoid right foot, 5 yard left foot pass" combination which has delighted Bobby Mancini for years), Jonny Evans. Yeah. That's what I thought too.

Chelsea don't need anything except stability. Their team is young, technical and growing. Maybe all they need is some depth at the back and in the holding mid positions. My advice? Get rid of JT and Lamps. You heard it here first. Oh, and maybe, somehow, arrange a money + Fernando Torres for Falcao deal. Pull at Atletico's heartstrings and maybe you'll get a player who a) knows how to score and b) is actually bothered about scoring.

10.  Sunderland v Stoke

Which of these clubs has been the most disappointing this season? And is Di Canio really the right manager for the Black Cats after their 6-1 drubbing on Monday night?


CHAKA - It certainly was a wake up call for Paolo; however, I do think he'll do a great job there. I think you'd have to say that over the course of the whole season Sunderland have been the more disappointing - what happened, Martin?

KD - Stoke have definitely been the most disappointing for me, simply because of their style of play. Whilst it was working for them, you could be forgiven for saying ‘sure, it may not be pretty, but you have to admire the fact that it is efficient, and managers are there to win games after all’; now, it’s far more like ‘it looks ugly, it doesn’t work, they’ve been found out and he’s run out of ideas’. I think Di Canio can be the right man, but then O’Neill couldn’t do it with the same players, and I rate him far more highly. I think the 6-1 was an embarrassingly dramatic ‘we’ve just won two games on the bounce’ complacency issue. I can see Stoke struggling again next season and being relegation candidates, whilst I feel Sunderland will probably settle around lower mid-table.


BAP - Both are unbelievably boring, so to see either of them maybe get relegated is not a disappointment in my book. I guess the bigger disappointment has been Sunderland: I liked Martin O'Neill and thought he bought some adventurous players over the summer. OK, Steven Fletcher isn't really 'adventurous', but at least Martin bought some attacking players. Thanks for performing so well Adam Johnson. But what do you expect when you have no creativity in midfield and your defence is marshalled by John 'goalscoring machine' O'Shea? Who always played left-back for Man Utd. Ouch.

As for Stoke, same old, same old. Boring, uninspiring. Just can't wait to see them go down next year. And I'm starting to wonder whether Tony Pulis a Ne-Yo 'I'm always wearing a hat because I've got a deformed face' thing going on. I know we see him give interviews after games, but surely he's had time to put a prosthesis on in the changing room. The people need to know!

Di Canio is a joke. That's all I'll say. He talks too much.

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